RUSH: Here’s Gilbert in Phoenix. Gilbert, great to have you on the program. Hi.

CALLER: Hey, Rush, thanks for having me on. I’m really excited to be on your show. It’s a shame you’ll never be able to experience the excitement that I have to be able to talk to you. But I wanted to talk… This morning, all day long on the radio and TV they’re talking about this woman on the $10 bill, and they always end the story —

RUSH: Now, wait, wait, wait. Is it the $10 bill or the 20?

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: Now I’m confused. It’s the $10 bill?

CALLER: It’s the $10 bill because of Hamilton. They keep bringing up Hamilton.

RUSH: Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

CALLER: And to make a long story short, they always end saying it’s gonna happen in 2020, and I thought… Donald Trump doesn’t need my help, but Donald Trump should say if he comes into office come January, come the springtime or the summer, that bill will already be in circulation. He’s going to show that he… Why does everything take five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years with the government?

RUSH: Yeah, yeah, that’s a… Well, in the case of Obamacare, I’ll tell you why it took so long to roll it out. It’s ’cause they had to make sure that the really bad aspects of it did not happen until after 2012 when Obama had run for presidential election the last time. I’m not just saying that. That’s the actual truth. They kept offering waivers, they kept delaying the most punitive aspects of Obamacare until after the next election, and they kept doing it. That’s why it’s only now, even though it was passed in 2010 or ’11, it’s not even fully implemented, it’s just now, every aspect of it. But you raise a good point. The bureaucracy is so big, why does it take — what now? — five years to change the $10 bill? So your point is Trump could say he could get it done in six months.

CALLER: Do you remember that guy, Nigel Farage, in England? He said, “Who talks this way? Who talks this way?” And that’s the thing with Donald Trump, is he speaks English. He speaks in a language that people understand.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: And that’s why he’s so popular, and that’s why he’s resonating.

RUSH: Right. A lot of people… I know. He resonates with a lot of people because he says things in ways that a lot of people think them.

CALLER: Kind of like you.

RUSH: (chuckles) Yeah, you’re right. It is a pleasure I’ll never have, speaking to me. And I’m glad you pointed that out. He says he’s enjoying something I’ll never get to do, that’s talk to me.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: That’s very, very shrewd of you to observe. Do you use Uber by any chance?

CALLER: Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

RUSH: What do you mean, “Oh, no, no, no, no”?

CALLER: No, no, no, no. I don’t do that stuff. Yeah. I have my own car.

RUSH: Yeah, but —

CALLER: I got my own car. I got my first car when I was 16, a ’63 Thunderbird.

RUSH: Do you consume adult beverages?

CALLER: (laughing) Well, Dean Martin says, “I feel sorry for those that don’t drink because when they wake up in the morning, that’s the best they’re gonna feel all day.”

RUSH: (laughing)

CALLER: So yeah. (laughing) Of course I drink adult beverages.

RUSH: I tell you, you’re a card out there, Gilbert.

CALLER: You know what? When I got on the phone it was 103; now it’s 106. The temperature’s rising here! In the shade!

RUSH: Phoenix, yeah.

CALLER: I’m from Yuma. I’m from Yuma, Arizona.

RUSH: You know, I just read… Speaking of that, I just read Michelle Obama somewhere on a four-day shopping spree, I think Europe. Obama is going on a four-day fundraising trip to California, and when he finishes that he’s gonna go to Palm Springs and play golf. Now, there’s nobody there except the people that can’t afford to leave. Palm Springs in the summertime? Nobody’s in Palm Springs playing golf in the summertime.

Just like there’s nobody in Phoenix or Scottsdale playing golf unless they go out there before the sun comes up. Go out there and get, you know, maybe 18 holes in before nine a.m. Now, in the desert you can do that. I actually think places like where we live here in the summer time, Florida or even in the Midwest, people go out and say, “Yeah, you gotta go out early in the morning, because the rest of the day it’s just sweltering.”

Wrongo, pal.

I would much rather go play golf in the summer at noon or one o’clock. The humidity is in half! The humidity at seven, eight, nine o’clock in the morning is 78, 80%. It’s down to 50% by noon. The humidity is what makes it insufferable out there. But in Arizona there isn’t any, any time of day, and the same thing with Palm Springs. That’s why they say, “It’s a dry heat,” but it’s still hot as hell. It’s not a mitigating factor. I mean, 111 degrees is 111 degrees. There’s no way you can make that sound cool. (laughing) Anyway… All right, appreciate the call, Gilbert. I really do.

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RUSH: Here is James in Pine Lake, Georgia, as we head back to the phones. Great to have you. Hi.

CALLER: Hey, how you doing? You.

RUSH: I’m doing great, sir, thank you.

CALLER: Listen, I think that Trump has got a very good chance of getting elected president of the United States.

RUSH: You do?

CALLER: I do indeed because I think that low-information voters, the same people that put Obama into office, he’s got name recognition with them that, they never heard of Ted Cruz or, you know, any of the others, but they’ve heard of Trump. They watch him on The Apprentice, and he’s saying stuff that they want to hear. They don’t know about all the weird proposals he’s made over the past, but —

RUSH: Wait a minute, like what kind of weird proposals?

CALLER: Confiscating people’s wealth to pay off of the national debt.

RUSH: Well, now, no, no, no. Not quite. He proposed a one-time as you are tax of 14.25%, just a one-time deal.

CALLER: Just a one-time deal. That’s right. (laughing).

RUSH: Yeah, but that’s not… The Democrats confiscate people’s wealth. That’s not what Trump proposed.

CALLER: Trump, yeah, right. Okay. I’m just saying that people that don’t identify as Republican or Democrats are gonna… They know who he is, and he’s saying things they want to hear. And like I say, they don’t know about all the weirdness that he’s proposed in the past.

RUSH: Okay. Some of what you say stands to reason. I mean, you’re talking about low-information people, and they do watch and like The Apprentice.

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: And they associate, “You’re fired!”

CALLER: Yep.

RUSH: And they associate a no-nonsense guy. Look, I tell you what: Where Trump goes, crowds follow. I mean, he does seminars on business at business schools. In public, he does draw crowds. There’s no question that he does. Paid crowds.

CALLER: He’s got a lot of name recognition. And, you know, I think that he stands a good chance. I mean, look, how shocked were you that Obama got reelected? ‘Cause I was floored.

RUSH: That’s a great question, actually, and I was shocked until I saw the exit poll data and I knew it was over. But I’m like everybody else — and this is a major mistake that a lot of us made. I really did believe the polls were wrong. I really thought the vast majority of people in this country were informed and I thought the opposition to Obamacare alone would be enough to defeat Obama. I was looking at the 2010 midterm turnout and I discounted the polls because I figured they were discounting people. But that presidential turnout, the people that voted for Obama were people that don’t even know the details of Obamacare. That’s your point, really.

CALLER: Right. Right low-information voters don’t vote in the midterms.

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: So, you know, we got Congress, we got the Senate, but we lost the White House again. And again, you know, big turnout of people that —

RUSH: Well, here’s another thing. Here’s another thing. You know, the House Republicans are working overtime to help Obama pass this Transpacific Partnership Trade Deal, and it is a sellout of Republican voters. This is actually one of the most amazing things. The Democrats have worked very hard to defeat this. And I know a lot of people who have said to me, “Rush, do you realize the debt of gratitude we owe the Democrat Party for saving this country’s sovereignty, because they stopped this trade deal?” Friends of mine believe that it was the Democrats who saved the day on this thing by defeating it. Now, here you have the Republicans working overtime to help Obama pass this thing. Now, let me ask a question, James. Do you wonder why that’s the case?

CALLER: I think that the Republican Party, the Republican establishment has sold out their base, and I’ll tell you right now —

RUSH: Yeah, why but to who? To whom have they sold out?

CALLER: They’re only in it for the money and the power now. They’re not… They don’t represent us anymore.

RUSH: I know a lot of people think that, but I’ve got a specific answer to this. The Chamber of Commerce is running the Republican Party right now.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: The Chamber of Commerce has been stealthfully taken care of by a bunch of liberals. The Chamber of Commerce is why the Republicans are pro-amnesty and pro-open borders.

CALLER: Why do we want open borders? It’s so that we can exploit them. The left wants to exploit immigration politically and the right wants to exploit them economically. You know, they want a permanent — well, you said it before. They want a permanent underclass.

RUSH: Yep.

CALLER: So, cheap labor Democrats. I really don’t think that… I voted Republican all my life, and I’ll tell you right now, if somebody like Jeb Bush gets the nomination, I am not voting for that guy. I voted for his dad. I voted for his brother. Not again.

RUSH: What about Trump? I mean, let’s say you’re right about Trump.

CALLER: Oh, my God, no! Hell, no. I wouldn’t vote for Trump.

RUSH: Well, wait a minute. Trump probably is not gonna go along with this immigration stuff that you just described you don’t like.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: You wouldn’t vote for Trump. Okay. Ted Cruz?

CALLER: I like Cruz.

RUSH: Scott Walker?

CALLER: I like Walker, yes.

RUSH: Marco Rubio?

CALLER: Rubio? Rubio got burned on the border. I liked Rubio. But, again, you know, open-border Republicans? Big-government, open-border Republicans? No, thank you.

RUSH: Carly Fiorina?

CALLER: I don’t know that much about her. She’s the one that ran against Jerry Brown in California. Is that right?

RUSH: Yeah, but she’s a different person now. Since she has broken away from the McCain-Romney cabal, Carly Fiorina is sounding as conservative as anybody in the race is.

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.

RUSH: And she’s doing something nobody else in the party is doing — well, very few are doing — and she’s going for Hillary’s throat.

CALLER: Yep.

RUSH: How about…?

CALLER: I haven’t been paying that much attention to her.

RUSH: Well, start. You’ll be pleased. How about Lindsey Grahamnesty?

CALLER: No. Hell, no.

RUSH: No.

CALLER: He’s a big-government, open-border Republican.

RUSH: Rick Perry?

CALLER: Yeah, I like him. Like him.

RUSH: Okay, so you got —

CALLER: Highly successful in Texas.

RUSH: How about Dr. Ben Carson?

CALLER: Again, I don’t… I haven’t paid a lot of attention to Carson. I understand he is a fantastic human being, and if he got the nomination I would vote for him.

RUSH: Okay, so there’s five or six here that —

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: — you would have no problem supporting?

CALLER: Absolutely.

RUSH: But if it’s Trump, if it’s Jeb, you’re out of there?

CALLER: Yeah. I’ll vote third party or just sit it out.

RUSH: No, not third party.

CALLER: We have another… I’m in Georgia. If we have another primary where I have to vote for Mike Freaking Huckabee in order to prevent the worse option from getting in, then I’m just not gonna do it.

RUSH: Well, boy, do I hear you on that. You are right on the money on that.

CALLER: Well, I appreciate that, Rush. I’ve been listening to you for 24 years.

RUSH: Well, that’s why you’re right on the money.

CALLER: I’ve grown old listening to you. (chuckles)

RUSH: Well, I’m glad that you’re out there, James. I know what you mean. “If I have to vote for Mike Freaking Huckaberry in order to keep somebody…” Yeah, I… Yeah. Well, at least there’s hope for you, because you’ve got four or five here that could inspire you.

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RUSH: White Plains, New York. Hey, Rich, great to have you, sir. Hello.

CALLER: Hey, Rush. Mega golf lovers dittos.

RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much.

CALLER: It’s pretty obvious that the Republican pundits don’t like Trump, but I’ve never seen such a display of animus as I saw yesterday by Dana Perino on that show The Five. She was using Eric Bolling as her whipping boy when Bolling was not even making a full-throated endorsement of Trump, just trying to bring out some of the positives, and she went bonkers. I mean, it was ugly, Rush. I’ve never seen anything like it.

RUSH: Really? Dana Perino?

CALLER: Oh, it was shocking, Rush. It was — (laughing) — you gotta go back and watch it. She was out of her mind. She went so far as to accuse Bolling of sucking up to Donald because he wanted to be on The Apprentice. She actually said that.

RUSH: Hmm. Now, it doesn’t surprise me that Dana Perino would have that attitude about Trump, but on that show — and I haven’t seen it in a while — but everybody on that show has a character, a persona. Her persona is of the wise schoolteacher or schoolmarm watching in amused amazement at all the others as they say incendiary things, but she tries to come off as the reasonable, almost moderator —

CALLER: Sure. She’s the kumbaya person. And there was no kumbaya in her yesterday.

RUSH: Well, you know, she’s in the Bush camp, and that has got to be a factor in this. But she was not the only one. I read you that piece from National Review yesterday that, I mean, I’ve never read anything like that about a Democrat. It insulted Trump’s wife and insulted his kids, it insulted Trump, it insulted his hair. The fact he announced going down an escalator, if that wasn’t symbolic of his whole campaign. It was brutal. It was also funny. Did you interpret this as dissension in the ranks on The Five, or something else?

CALLER: Oh, absolutely. It was a complete departure of protocol for her. I just read a couple of — I got on a website, and a lot of people feel exactly the same way, that she needs to take a time-out. She needs to go wherever what’s-his-name went for a while because she was that out of line.

RUSH: Bob Beckel?

CALLER: Yeah, she needs to go wherever Bob Beckel went for a little while. Somebody described her as needing a time-out. I mean, it was really completely out of character for her, and I think it was a Freudian slip that shows exactly what she is. She’s a RINO, you know, through and through. She’s no real conservative.

RUSH: Well, a lot of people think that. Republican establishment, I mean, clearly her loyalties start understandably with the Bush political apparatus, and that would mean Jeb in this environment. But I tell you, I know what you’re talking about, but here’s the thing. While you may have a couple people you found on social media who think, oh, wow, Dana went overboard, most people are gonna say man, that was great television, especially if it broke the mold, especially if it was out of character.

Look at you. It happened yesterday. You’re still, 23 hours later, calling here to talk about it. And so the people in charge over there, “Wow, that was great TV!” I tell you what, you’ll find out, if today there is some reference to it, and if she says: “You know, Eric and I are buds and it just got a little headed yesterday, but we love each other, right, Eric?” And if Eric, “Oh, yeah, no problem,” then you’ll know that there was something to it that might have been upset. If they don’t address it today, then there’s no sweat.

You just watch. You gotta learn how to watch this stuff, in addition to just being an impassioned viewer, or even a dispassionate viewer, there’s a way to watch this stuff to understand what about it is real and what isn’t. And I’m here to help any time anybody has a question about this stuff. Rich, I appreciate the call. I really do.